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Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out London

Post by deano » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:24 pm

See this on the googlebox tonight..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... n-05102015

Jump straight to 24mins + 45 seconds

Article about a Police museum in London
Mint looking old bill 800 series
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by scoobyh123 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:07 pm

There was a big article in Practical Classics about the transfer of all the Police vehicles from (i think it was) the Hendon Police Garage to the museum and i think our very own Kate (TDHFastback) on here was on one of the motorcycles serving outrider duty on the day.

That 800 in the museum is one of the very last 827s :


Registration number: P161 PYW
✗ Untaxed

Tax due: 01 October 2015
✔ MOT

Expires: 05 May 2016

New keepers must get tax before using the vehicle.
If you have taxed, made a SORN or had a MOT it can take up to 5 days for these details to be shown above. If you have a valid paper MoT certificate this is proof that the vehicle has been tested.
Vehicle details

Vehicle make
ROVER
Date of first registration
03 October 1996
Year of manufacture
1996
Cylinder capacity (cc)
2675cc
CO₂Emissions
Not available
Fuel type
PETROL
Vehicle status
Taxed and due
Vehicle colour
WHITE
Vehicle type approval
Not available
Wheelplan
2 AXLE RIGID BODY

Somewhere on here there's a thread about it as well, not sure where though but hopefully someone else will be along soon to be able to link to it.
The transfer was a few months back now so if you know anyone who buys Practical Classics regularly or you buy it yourself then you may well be able to find the article.

Bit naughty of the Police not to keep it taxed though, even if it is in a museum! :lol:
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by deano » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:35 am

should be registered as a SORN
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by scoobyh123 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:21 am

Maybe it is but the tax ran out end of september so perhaps it's been taxed or declared SORN and it's not showing on the DVLA website.
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by hotfuzz87 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:15 am

The 827 is still owned by the Met police, for all intents and purposes it's an operational police vehicle just like the rest of the historic fleet. It has a police log book just like any other police vehicle and can only be driven by officers and police staff with the relevant driving qualifications. Therefore it is both tax and MOT exempt.
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by deano » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:36 pm

It must have an MOT of some sort

I`m sure Old bill don't run round in `unchecked` motors ;)
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by hotfuzz87 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:38 pm

We maintain our vehicles in house to a much higher standard than the MOT test
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by rovercoup » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:54 pm

The same goes for military vehicles. When did you last see an army landy down your local mot garage, and as Ryan has already stated these vehicles are maintained to a much higher standard.
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by deano » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:04 pm

but as we already know it does have an MOT
It runs out on May 5th next year.

or so it says on the net...
1993 Rover 827 SLI Fastback Mk2
1999 Rover 825 Sterling Saloon Mk2 (HGF)
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by hotfuzz87 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:08 pm

It's a 'ghost' record for the dvla system not an actual mot. Don't ask me why because I don't know lol
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by scoobyh123 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:36 pm

hotfuzz87 wrote:The 827 is still owned by the Met police, for all intents and purposes it's an operational police vehicle just like the rest of the historic fleet. It has a police log book just like any other police vehicle and can only be driven by officers and police staff with the relevant driving qualifications. Therefore it is both tax and MOT exempt.

I get that bit Ryan, surely there is something in place to allow for free issue road tax or something to categorise it as MoT exempt officially so that Police vehicles don't set off every ANPR camera as they go about their business? I think that might have been what Deano was asking as well, obviously the Police workshops have to keep the vehiles in better than new condition as you'll never know when you'll need to depend on them and it's no good having something break down in the middle of a high speed pursuit!

*** EDIT *** your comments about ghost records has just appeared, answers my question too! :D
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by hotfuzz87 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:44 pm

As far as I know police vehicles aren't on the ANPR database anyway. Although it's linked to the dvla there is the facility for 'excluding' government and service vehicles. Or that might explain the ghost records on the dvla database. I know that ambulances, other police cars etc don't set off the ANPR in our area cars.

In regards to police vehicles breaking down during a pursuit, even with the best maintenance in the world it happens, I remember one of the first pursuits I was in ended up with our 3.0 Vectra dying a death in a large cloud of white smoke whilst the 1.0 polo we were chasing went merrily on its way lol
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out Lon

Post by scoobyh123 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:45 pm

If only everything in life was as reliable as a Volkswagen! :lol: :lol: :lol:

As for the Vectra, Vauxhall (and Nissan!) have seriously gone down the tubes since getting mixed up with Renault! Take it the 3.0 is a Renault lump?
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out London

Post by George Snr » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:22 am

Just an update! now MOT and taxed!

I have a keen interest in Police vehicles; my current vehicle is a Thames Valley Vauxhall Omega traffic estate which I show. I would like to find out if any Police 800's still exist, excluding the Met one above. If anyone has any knowledge of any perhaps they may be willing to enlighten me. My thanks in advance.
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Re: Rover 800 police car on tv tonight , BBC1 Inside Out London

Post by scoobyh123 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:04 am

Congrats on getting road legal! There is another ex-Met Police 827 that i know of (and several other members know of it as well) that was not only the last Mk1 827 in active service until it was sold initially to a film/tv production unit who used it in "The Bill" and they sold it privately to someone who then sold it on to our very own Kate (TDH Fastback - have i got the history correct Kate?) who not only maintains it in pristine condition but shows it regularly as well.

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That was 7th August this year at the BL National Spares day and Rally at Peterborough - other than that one i don't know of any others but i'm sure there are some.
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